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		<title>By: nina aoki</title>
		<link>http://lazygeisha.com/2007/03/09/human-papillomavirus-facts/#comment-3614</link>
		<dc:creator>nina aoki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 03:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JW,

Thanks for the link sweetie!

xoxo,
nina</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JW,</p>
<p>Thanks for the link sweetie!</p>
<p>xoxo,<br />
nina</p>
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		<title>By: JW</title>
		<link>http://lazygeisha.com/2007/03/09/human-papillomavirus-facts/#comment-3607</link>
		<dc:creator>JW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 16:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.overcomingbias.com/2007/09/human-evil-and-.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Human Evil and Muddled Thinking&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: nina aoki</title>
		<link>http://lazygeisha.com/2007/03/09/human-papillomavirus-facts/#comment-3603</link>
		<dc:creator>nina aoki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 05:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear "Just read your reply" or "Ms. Christian Woman",

Thank you for sharing your thoughts with me, and I'm sorry that you find yourself offended by my remarks. 

My remarks are based on factual reporting about the primary obstacle to mandatory HPV vaccinations; those being the arguments made by the religious right, (essentially Christians, you can pick your flavor), that vaccinating girls at the sixth grade level will encourage promiscuity.

I didn't make up this argument, I'm simply reporting on it and responding to the absurdity of that argument.

Unfortunately, Christians in this country have some very disturbing ideas and attitudes about human sexuality and human behavior, often pushing an agenda which includes opposing comprehensive sex education for our children because of some extremely irrational fear that by teaching our children the facts about sex and things like condoms, STDs, and other aspects of normal sexual behavior is somehow an endorsement and/or a permission slip for those children to begin having sex; and I'll throw in the issue of evolution vs. creationism (or intelligent design being the new 'buzz word' talking point) because that's an equally absurd notion which finds the religious right pushing another disturbing agenda in public education policy.

I'm sorry, but ignorance is not bliss and is quite often dangerous and detrimental to children growing up to become normal, well adjusted adult members of society.  Not when there is real, demonstrable evidence to the contrary.

I did a quick Google News search using the terms "HPV vaccine promiscuity" and the results were really quite astonishing, tho not at all surprising,  clearly supporting my argument that religious opposition to mandatory HPV vaccinations is the &lt;i&gt;leading&lt;/i&gt; obstacle to enacting such mandatory programs.  The State of Texas is a perfect petri dish to observe this phenomenon.

Now there are certainly other arguments  against mandatory vaccination such as economics and long term safety testing of the vaccine, but those aren't the real obstacles to enacting a state by state mandatory vaccination program.

You asked the question; 

&lt;i&gt;" Are there religious fanatics going about who are insisting that the use of the vaccine will make women promiscous?"&lt;/i&gt;

Well, unfortunately, yes, there are... and those arguments are being made by Christian extremists.  But do your own research, do a Google search and see for yourself.

In this country you are free to observe and hold any religious beliefs you choose.  My issue with Christians is their undue, and sadly government sanctioned and funded influence on public policy as it affects the rest of us.  Chastity pledges, abstinence only education, and faith based prayer groups do not stop HPV, cervical cancer, teen pregnancy, date rape, nor the boogey-man.  But education, science, and reasonable public health policy certainly can and do make a real  positive difference.

Again, thank you for sharing your thoughts with me, but what I find offensive are groups of religious fanatics, primarily hypocritical Christians, attempting to dictate to the rest of us how we should all be living our lives.  

The religious right continues to wage war on such basic things as choice, female reproductive health, sex education, and now sadly, a vaccine which could potentially eliminate cervical cancer in a single generation.

I think religion should be practiced in your home and in your church, not in public policy for all Americans.  My intent is not to offend... I'm just simply aghast at how badly American Christians seem to want to turn this country into a theocracy, and I feel obligated as a woman and as a mother to work against that.  

It may be a harsh point of view, but I see no difference between fundamentalist Christians and the Taliban.  Both seek total control of society based on their particular religious doctrine, which is an extremely dangerous thing.

nina aoki</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear &#8220;Just read your reply&#8221; or &#8220;Ms. Christian Woman&#8221;,</p>
<p>Thank you for sharing your thoughts with me, and I&#8217;m sorry that you find yourself offended by my remarks. </p>
<p>My remarks are based on factual reporting about the primary obstacle to mandatory HPV vaccinations; those being the arguments made by the religious right, (essentially Christians, you can pick your flavor), that vaccinating girls at the sixth grade level will encourage promiscuity.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t make up this argument, I&#8217;m simply reporting on it and responding to the absurdity of that argument.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, Christians in this country have some very disturbing ideas and attitudes about human sexuality and human behavior, often pushing an agenda which includes opposing comprehensive sex education for our children because of some extremely irrational fear that by teaching our children the facts about sex and things like condoms, STDs, and other aspects of normal sexual behavior is somehow an endorsement and/or a permission slip for those children to begin having sex; and I&#8217;ll throw in the issue of evolution vs. creationism (or intelligent design being the new &#8216;buzz word&#8217; talking point) because that&#8217;s an equally absurd notion which finds the religious right pushing another disturbing agenda in public education policy.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry, but ignorance is not bliss and is quite often dangerous and detrimental to children growing up to become normal, well adjusted adult members of society.  Not when there is real, demonstrable evidence to the contrary.</p>
<p>I did a quick Google News search using the terms &#8220;HPV vaccine promiscuity&#8221; and the results were really quite astonishing, tho not at all surprising,  clearly supporting my argument that religious opposition to mandatory HPV vaccinations is the <i>leading</i> obstacle to enacting such mandatory programs.  The State of Texas is a perfect petri dish to observe this phenomenon.</p>
<p>Now there are certainly other arguments  against mandatory vaccination such as economics and long term safety testing of the vaccine, but those aren&#8217;t the real obstacles to enacting a state by state mandatory vaccination program.</p>
<p>You asked the question; </p>
<p><i>&#8221; Are there religious fanatics going about who are insisting that the use of the vaccine will make women promiscous?&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Well, unfortunately, yes, there are&#8230; and those arguments are being made by Christian extremists.  But do your own research, do a Google search and see for yourself.</p>
<p>In this country you are free to observe and hold any religious beliefs you choose.  My issue with Christians is their undue, and sadly government sanctioned and funded influence on public policy as it affects the rest of us.  Chastity pledges, abstinence only education, and faith based prayer groups do not stop HPV, cervical cancer, teen pregnancy, date rape, nor the boogey-man.  But education, science, and reasonable public health policy certainly can and do make a real  positive difference.</p>
<p>Again, thank you for sharing your thoughts with me, but what I find offensive are groups of religious fanatics, primarily hypocritical Christians, attempting to dictate to the rest of us how we should all be living our lives.  </p>
<p>The religious right continues to wage war on such basic things as choice, female reproductive health, sex education, and now sadly, a vaccine which could potentially eliminate cervical cancer in a single generation.</p>
<p>I think religion should be practiced in your home and in your church, not in public policy for all Americans.  My intent is not to offend&#8230; I&#8217;m just simply aghast at how badly American Christians seem to want to turn this country into a theocracy, and I feel obligated as a woman and as a mother to work against that.  </p>
<p>It may be a harsh point of view, but I see no difference between fundamentalist Christians and the Taliban.  Both seek total control of society based on their particular religious doctrine, which is an extremely dangerous thing.</p>
<p>nina aoki</p>
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		<title>By: Just read your reply</title>
		<link>http://lazygeisha.com/2007/03/09/human-papillomavirus-facts/#comment-3591</link>
		<dc:creator>Just read your reply</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 02:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope you do not seriously think that the HPV vaccine is not being forced and made mandatory of all women because of some ass backward religious objection.  There would be few who would have an objection to such a vaccine that can save lives, even if they are really religious. The issue isn't about religion at all, and your concluding paragraph makes it sounds as such.  Are there religious fanatics going about who are insisting that the use of the vaccine will make women promiscous?  As a Christian woman myself, I'm offended by that commment.  Religion really isn't an issue here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope you do not seriously think that the HPV vaccine is not being forced and made mandatory of all women because of some ass backward religious objection.  There would be few who would have an objection to such a vaccine that can save lives, even if they are really religious. The issue isn&#8217;t about religion at all, and your concluding paragraph makes it sounds as such.  Are there religious fanatics going about who are insisting that the use of the vaccine will make women promiscous?  As a Christian woman myself, I&#8217;m offended by that commment.  Religion really isn&#8217;t an issue here.</p>
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		<title>By: nina aoki</title>
		<link>http://lazygeisha.com/2007/03/09/human-papillomavirus-facts/#comment-2017</link>
		<dc:creator>nina aoki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 16:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lunarowlar,

Of course they are sweetie.  I don't mind  links to news stories or items of interest.  They're always welcome.

As I mentioned to JW, I need to do an HPV update soon.

Thank you!

xoxo,
nina</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lunarowlar,</p>
<p>Of course they are sweetie.  I don&#8217;t mind  links to news stories or items of interest.  They&#8217;re always welcome.</p>
<p>As I mentioned to JW, I need to do an HPV update soon.</p>
<p>Thank you!</p>
<p>xoxo,<br />
nina</p>
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		<title>By: nina aoki</title>
		<link>http://lazygeisha.com/2007/03/09/human-papillomavirus-facts/#comment-2016</link>
		<dc:creator>nina aoki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 16:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JW,

I'm sorry sweetie, I must have missed this.  I need to do an HPV update soon.  Thanks!

xoxo,
nina</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JW,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry sweetie, I must have missed this.  I need to do an HPV update soon.  Thanks!</p>
<p>xoxo,<br />
nina</p>
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		<title>By: lunarowlar</title>
		<link>http://lazygeisha.com/2007/03/09/human-papillomavirus-facts/#comment-2001</link>
		<dc:creator>lunarowlar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 06:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>have appreciated your discussions of this issue.
glad to see JW's post here.
became aware of this angle through dan savage's weekly column (love his pragmatic iconoclasm):
http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/SavageLove
(are links like this "allowed" in your gracious garden?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>have appreciated your discussions of this issue.<br />
glad to see JW&#8217;s post here.<br />
became aware of this angle through dan savage&#8217;s weekly column (love his pragmatic iconoclasm):<br />
<a href="http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/SavageLove" rel="nofollow">http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/SavageLove</a><br />
(are links like this &#8220;allowed&#8221; in your gracious garden?)</p>
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		<title>By: JW</title>
		<link>http://lazygeisha.com/2007/03/09/human-papillomavirus-facts/#comment-1735</link>
		<dc:creator>JW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 22:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://rawstory.com/showoutarticle.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.time.com%2Ftime%2Fhealth%2Farticle%2F0%2C8599%2C1619814%2C00.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Oral Sex Can Add to HPV Cancer Risk By COCO MASTERS &lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://rawstory.com/showoutarticle.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.time.com%2Ftime%2Fhealth%2Farticle%2F0%2C8599%2C1619814%2C00.html" rel="nofollow">Oral Sex Can Add to HPV Cancer Risk By COCO MASTERS </a></p>
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