over morning tea: love monkeys attack Maine school district… Darwin taken hostage!


Something from the But this isn’t Kansas Dorothy! file; a new front in the war against teaching evolution in public schools has broken out in the great state of Maine – a state known for its pristine shoreline, fabulous lobster, and giving birth control pills to 12 year olds, can now add ‘enemy of Darwin’ to the list.  An article here in the Boston Globe reports that some guy named Matthew Linkletter, who happens to be the director of some school district there, is trying to use a backdoor method to push the teaching of evolution out of the science curriculum.

See – and this is what happens to people when they find Jesus; science all of a sudden becomes a theory.  And to think I wanted to start the week with something light too… sighs  :roll:

Creationism isn’t and can’t be taught in public schools – because that would fuck up that whole separation of church and state thing we like to pretend exists in this country – but the fundamentalist science hating bible thumping Christians have come up with another approach to getting rid of that pesky “evolution thing” which goes something like this:

“Fine.  Can’t teach creationism in public schools?  Well, we’ll just call evolution a theory and you damn kids won’t get any science then!  How ya like me now, bitches?”

It’s completely transparent and stupid, but that never seems to get in the way of the Christians now does it?  :roll:

I don’t want to pick on anybody’s personal beliefs here, but isn’t that the whole point?  It’s your personal beliefs.  Why can’t you keep your god and your beliefs in your home and your church and leave the nice science teachers alone?  Tho it never seems to work out that way does it?

From the Boston Globe article:

Linkletter’s pastor, Roy Blevins of Church of the Open Bible in Athens, favored a suggestion from SAD 59 Chairman Norman Luce that a philosophy class might provide a better forum for the study of evolution.

“That’s a sane approach,” Blevins said. “The evolution concept is a theory, and not provable. If the science department at Madison High is simply teaching theory, then you ought to leave it in the science department.”


Madison Town Manager Norman Dean, who taught science in Madison from 1962 through 1996 and once taught Linkletter, characterized his former student’s proposal as “absolutely stupid.”

“I thought we already had the monkey trial,” he said, referring to the 1925 Scopes trial in Tennessee that tested a law banning the teaching of evolution.

Well – we did have the monkey trial, and the monkeys won.

Speaking of missing links and killer coding monkeys – I’ve been playing with SETI@Home with my Ubuntu workstation – using up all of my unused computer cycles and my mad Unix command line skillz to help search the galaxy for ET, just in case Fox Moulder was right and the missing link in the human genome is actually an alien race which just showed up on earth one fine day and they happened to notice some Bonobo Monkeys fucking in the trees and decided to join in.  In case you didn’t know – the Bonobo is often referred to as the Hippie Monkey or the Love Monkey because they’re always having sex.

About the Bonobo Monkey

Sexual intercourse plays a major role in Bonobo society, being used as a greeting, a means of conflict resolution and post-conflict reconciliation, and as favors traded by the females in exchange for food. With the exception of a pair of Congoese gorillas caught in the act, Bonobos were thought to be the only non-human apes to have been observed engaging in all of the following sexual activities: face-to-face genital sex (most frequently female-female, then male-female and male-male), tongue kissing, and oral sex. More recently, however, gorillas have been observed to engage in face-to-face sex. In scientific literature, the female-female sex is often referred to as GG rubbing or genital-genital rubbing.

Source Wikipedia

Hmmm, sounds like evolution to me babe!  :lol:   — but by all means…  please feel free to believe that snake, apple, tree, fig leaf and ‘blame the woman for all your problems’ fairy tale if that’s what you want to do.  Your kind will be filtered out of the gene pool eventually – unless of course you’re a Duggar

Enjoy your Monday!


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Cheers to evolutiion.
I was taught all about Darwin and his explorations into evolution at my Church of England school….along with all the Bible stories and Christian stuff….how I love the irony…(when the curious of us questioned the creation/evolution conflict the explanation given was that SOME Old Testament stuff was actually stories and fables…well that was enough to make this curious gal think that maybe the whole lot was just a story…..)

Christian(ist)s…the bane of American society and the world. I’ll add them to my wish list if the Bolsheviks are offering the Czar Nicholas treatment.

In the meanwhile….
I think this says it all.

As does this.

Can I just say… best headline EVER.

Hi Jules!

Oh that’s fabulous — Darwin is essential reading in my opinion, tho the problem here with American public schools is that while evolution is the standard prevailing lesson plan and is in the science curriculum, not enough time is spent on Darwin himself, or his published works or his research — which I think is unfortunate.

This fight of creationism vs. evolution has only come up in a handful of US states and in an even smaller group of individual communities — but they’re a very vocal and obnoxious lot and what they represent is a dangerous slide into christian theocracy.

This is part of their new tactic — to try and paint evolution as an unprovable theory thereby bringing it down to the same level as creationism — but I ask: evolution is an unprovable theory as compared to what? The bible?? :lol:

If that isn’t irony I don’t know what is!

Thanks much!

nina

Lazy Ichi,

lmao! That cartoon does say it all doesn’t it? :lol:

The picture too — but I suppose that’s why they call it faith I guess. :???:

As long as they keep it to themselves I’m happy to leave them alone. It’s when they start wanting to cart their symbols into courtrooms and bring their insane ideas into classrooms which are supposed to serve everyone’s children that I start to get annoyed with them.

More irony? We wage war against muslims and call them islamo-fascists, while ignoring the home grown christian-fascists right here in this country. Organized religion is always dangerous in my opinion.

Whenever people allow the group to usurp individual thought and free will, someone usually winds up holding an automatic weapon or a copy of Dianetics. :razz:

(shudders)

nina

hkmouse,

:lol: Thanks! — Yeah, I did pretty good with that one huh? lmao!

Mwah!

nina

Religious extremists of all flavors hurt my head. Especially the intellectually lazy ones. They give the rest of us a bad name. :P
In other news, I think they should start calling the Bonobo monkey “the Scorpio monkey”, but that’s just me. ;-)

Here ya go, some interesting reading about the Treaty of Tripoli.

We’re pretty much in good company in what we believe. I know, they’re some old guys, but . . . ;)

I have MUCHO music on the way to my humble abode this week and next, but while I wait, I shall listen to some Oingo Boingo “Dead Man’s Party”. They’re cool. ;)

alliterative red,

Oh I agree — religious zealots who think they know what’s best for everyone else are an exceptionally dangerous sort.

:lol: Well — what struck me about the Bonobo was their practice of tribadism among the females. See? Even the female bonobos know that a little girl-girl love is good for them!

nina

Lazy Ichi,

Oh sure — those old guys on our money were not the religious nut cases the modern evangelicals make them out to be. So yes, we are in good company!

Oingo Boingo huh? Hmmmm, never really got into them. I’ve been listening to Oysterhead today. ;)

nina

Many creationists say that evolution is a mere dream or completely baseless, and there they are often saying that the world is only a few thousand years old, the the contrary has been proven. Not a theory, but a proof. There have been so many simulated experiments to show how evolution unfolded, and most of them are uncanny, everything from simulating the earth during primordial times in a test tube, to see all the carbon compounds that were created, carbon compounds that make up the world today.

I think one of the best things (although, not a ‘thing’ but a human) that came out of Maine is Stephen King.

Ana,

Oh sure, that’s what cracks me up! Science has proved how old the planet it, and has unraveled so much about our evolutionary track that it’s incredulous to me that the creationists continue to push the idea that the world is only a few thousand years old. Simply staggering ignorance!

Yeah, Maine is quickly becoming known as the second Kansas! :lol:

nina

Nina,

Please let me ask you a rhetorical question. It is a question that I hope you and every evolutionist will diligently consider. If it turns out there is a creator god, what are you planning on to tell him when he ask you, “Why did you reject me?” This link may be of some help to you http://www.icr.org/.

Andy

Andy,

Hmmm, interesting question. Tho I’d ask you: why would the all knowing, all forgiving, all understanding invisible daddy figure in the sky need to ask me anything?

Sorry, arguments promoting creationism and intelligent design are used as a dodge to further a religious agenda. Evolution is science.

Tho why do people who follow organized religions, especially christianity, fear science so much?

nina

btw: I’m a Buddhist. And not that it matters, but christians tend to be the most intolerant of all the world’s organized religions.

Nina,

Why do teachers ask their student questions, don’t they already know the answer? Teachers asks questions to get their class to think.

I can with equal conviction declare that evolution is not science but a religious doctrine. I don’t have a enough faith to believe that the universe in all of its intricate complexity is just a fluke.

Christians do not fear science, some of the greatest scientist where Christians, Galileo, Kelven, Johann Kepler, Sir Issac Newton, Blaise Pascal and Michale Faraday. Albert Einstein though not a Christian was a creationist. If you were to go to the web site I mentioned in my previous post you can read the writings of several Christian scientists.

Humans by nature are intolerant people so why should Christians be any different? I can share with you that this Christian recognizes his intolerance and is prayerfully working to change it. I bet that if you look hard enough you can find where your’s lie. (hint: think Hillary).

Andy,

Thanks for the big fat piece of cheese right over the plate. I feel like Manny Ramirez with heels right about now.

“Christians do not fear science, some of the greatest scientist where Christians, Galileo, Kelven, Johann Kepler, Sir Issac Newton, Blaise Pascal and Michale Faraday.”

And they were called heretics and denounced by the church.

“Albert Einstein though not a Christian was a creationist.”

Think so?

In 1929, Einstein told Rabbi Herbert S. Goldstein “I believe in Spinoza’s God, who reveals Himself in the lawful harmony of the world, not in a God Who concerns Himself with the fate and the doings of mankind.”

In a 1950 letter to M. Berkowitz, Einstein stated that “My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment.”

Source: Wikipedia

Please check your facts and tell the whole story next time.

“I can with equal conviction declare that evolution is not science but a religious doctrine.”

And you would be wrong, but don’t let that get in your way. Personal beliefs work like that — they don’t necessarily require that they be based in fact, but it’s nice when they are.

“Humans by nature are intolerant people so why should Christians be any different?”

Well, that’s your first mistake. Human beings are not intolerant by nature — societies are intolerant, groups are intolerant, organized religions are intolerant.

And please don’t make suppositions and assumptions about me or what my beliefs are, especially with regard to politics. Disagreement and intolerance are not the same thing.

“I don’t have a enough faith to believe that the universe in all of its intricate complexity is just a fluke.”

Neither do I, and I never suggested that. I simply don’t subscribe to the judeo-christian theology which ignores fact in favor of fables. And as they put it in the proverbial nutshell: issues of faith belong in the home and the church, not in the public schools. Evolution is accepted, fact based science. Which is why we teach it to our children.

nina